07/12/2009 at 6:01 am #6827mulletmanParticipant
when targeting rig use a 100 pound trace with the sinker above the hook it works well of peirs and the beach. For bait im sure you all know PADDLE CRABS rig love them. take the legs off and use bait string to keep it on the hook.07/12/2009 at 6:40 am #14212fishforpotParticipant
Take the legs off if you want the LIVE crabs to rip the baits to bits in minutes , or if you want any sea lice to have a really easy meal….
Leave the legs on if you want to keep some juicy bait in the water for the rig to eat , especially if using thawed X-frozen crabs …as the juicy bits tend to fall to bits in the cast , impact with water , and pickers like crabs etc having an easy feed
By all means remove the shell , use half a crab …..
Of course , if you do remove the legs , shell and use half a crab you will find it a deadly bait for elephants ……but if chasing rig and rig alone …legs on !
Standard ledger rig is fine …2 baits …..and 60lb trace is fine …..I prefer smaller hooks , with a sliding keeper …making sure both points of the hooks are well and truely sticking out of the bait , i.e. if the fish even touches the bait its in deep shit
1 hook in top of the bait ….tie it on …then keeper thru the cotton and out the side of the bait ….
Any other ideas peeps ?07/12/2009 at 7:05 am #14214
I just use a standard ledger rig, either 1,2 or 3 hooks depending on where I’m fishing, if the fish are biting, what the conditions are like, if there’s sea lice or crabs around I use 3. For hooks I use 5/0, a good size for rig and not to big for eles, sometimes I’ll use 7/0 and still hook eles so I guess it doesn’t matter to much. I usually half the crabs take off the shell, mouth etc and tie on with cotton.07/12/2009 at 9:51 am #14217
90% of the time I use a pulley rig, I use a single 4/0 owner circle hook.
I thread the hook between the crabs legs then wrap the legs around the shank of the hook with bait elastic. Seems to work well.
I sometime use 2 hook ledger rigs, they do work well and catch more fish but I go through my limited crab stock pile quickly and the chance of a tangle is increased.
I08/12/2009 at 4:08 am #14222mulletmanParticipant
i was just saying what the north island people use, besides i dont have sea lice where i fish08/12/2009 at 4:36 am #14223AnonymousInactive
When making your ledger rigs do you just tie a dropper loop or use a 3way swivel ? Notice any differences ?08/12/2009 at 5:31 am #14224
I use a swivel trapped between a couple of beads and crimps most of the time…. The ledger rigs I purchase are normally done with a knot. I have not noticed much of a difference.
If you are good at tying the knot it would be a quicker way to tie them.08/12/2009 at 5:32 am #14225
I use a normal dropper loop, sometimes twisted dropper. Works fine so I can’t see any point using dropper swivel just more parts and more money for each trace.08/12/2009 at 5:48 am #14226
Swivel droppers can help prevent Blue Cod tangling the line up.08/12/2009 at 5:51 am #14227
Yeah but this thread is about rig.08/12/2009 at 6:01 am #14228fishforpotParticipant
I use the standard dropper loop , but cut it at one end , then slip the keeper hook onto the line before tying the hook on with a clinch knot …..
The fish must be able to see some lines ..double line to the hook cant be ideal …..plus I imagine the bait will move more naturally on a single line in a dropper setup08/12/2009 at 6:12 am #14229
zac16/12/2009 at 4:01 am #14332
Crayfish is good for rig too… in fact its really only good for bait anyways….. crayfish im meaning16/12/2009 at 6:22 am #14333PierMasterParticipant
i use 440lb with 12/0 game hooks on a ledger trace in case a broadbill takes my bait instead16/12/2009 at 6:29 am #14334
440lb mono isn’t enough for rig, you really need 1000lb nylon coated wire trace quadruple crimped and 2 X 20/0 circle hooks in case a mako takes your crab bait.
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