Mullet Fishing – Are there any left?

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  • #13394
    yellowfin
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    Yeah I know there was a toxic algae and a couple of dogs died from it after licking rocks that it was growing on.. The same was found at the selwyn. But as far as I was aware it was still ok to eat fish from there??
    Do you have a link? I couldnt find anything on the fish and game website..

    #13395
    fishsnatcher
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    [b:trovx6c8]North Otago Area: Unfortunately the Shag and Waianakarua Rivers are suffering from a toxic algal bloom and people are advised not to let children or dogs swim in these waters. The cause of the bloom is unknown but it seems to occur during prolonged low flow periods.[/b:trovx6c8]

    This is an extract from an Otago fishing report in January and it doesn’t mention that fish caught in these rivers are unsuitable for eating.
    Best to be sure, but I’m sure fish and game would have mentioned it if fish caught in waters with this algae were contaminated.

    #13396
    151
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    Hi found this hope it helps, have checked latest report and there is no warning for the ashley etc seems to be more of a problem in summer, cheers

    What are toxic algae ?
    Cyanobacteria (blue-green algae) are an ancient group of organisms with characteristics in common with both bacteria and algae. Cyanobacteria are widespread in many lakes and rivers in New Zealand, and are found in a wide range of water quality conditions, including relatively ‘clean’ waters.

    Photos of toxic algae
    Under favourable conditions, cyanobacteria cells can multiply and form blooms in lakes or thick mats attached to river and stream beds. Some species produce natural toxins called cyanotoxins which are a potential threat to people and animals if present in drinking water or if people and animals come into contact with the water during recreational activities.

    Mat forming Cyanobacteria in rivers – Phormidium
    In flowing rivers, the cyanobacteria species Phormidium forms thick mats of dark brown/black mats. Phormidium occurs naturally in rivers throughout Canterbury.

    In the summer of 2007, thick mats of Phormidium were found in the Ashley River/Rakahuri. The lower reaches of the river had extensive areas where the thick, dark-brown/ black Phormidium sp. mats were present in the river and on the margins from SH 1 down to the estuary. At least two dogs died around this time, after licking or eating the algal mats. Analytical tests confirmed the presence of toxins, leading the local council to erect health warning signs at the river. Similar problems during the 2007 summer occurred in the Hutt River in the Wellington Region.

    What do mat-forming cyanobacteria look like?

    Cyanobacterial mats (Phormidium) are a dense dark brown/black colour and are typically found on stable substrate such as large rocks, stones and cobbles and stones. They may have a ‘dreadlocks’ appearance in slow moving parts of the river and may come loose from the riverbed and form floating ‘rafts’, which become caught in other debris in the river. When the Phormidium mats die and dry out they become light brown or white in colour.

    The more brightly coloured long filamentous green algae that are commonly found in rivers and streams are harmless algae that do not produce toxins.

    Algal blooms in lakes
    Bloom of toxic Nodularia at Lake Forsyth/Te Roto O Wairewa
    The algae that commonly grow in lakes are a free floating form (phytoplankton). Some species are Cyanobacteria that have the potential to grow rapidly to form a high density of cells (bloom) and produce cyanotoxins. In Canterbury, Lake Forsyth/Te Roto O Wairewa forms a bloom of the Cyanobacteria Nodularia in most summers. This alga produces the toxin Nodularin, which has been known to kill stock and dogs that are in contact with lake water during a bloom.

    Algal blooms in lakes or still waters are commonly blue-green in coloration but can also be red or yellow. They typically form thick scums on the surface, and may also develop foams at the water’s edge.

    What causes cyanobacteria algal blooms?

    The presence of extensive mats of cyanobacteria is linked with environmental conditions conducive to their growth. Favourable conditions include the right combination of warm temperatures, sunlight, low or stable river flows, and nutrients. The occurrence of mats or algal blooms is a natural phenomenon but human activities, such as taking water from rivers or adding nutrients to waterways, can make things worse.

    Are cyanobacteria always toxic?

    No. There are several species of cyanobacteria, that may or may not be toxic, depending upon prevailing environmental conditions. However, if potentially toxic cyanobacteria are present in large numbers, you should presume that the water may be unsafe for contact recreation or consumption.

    Some algae have toxins in their cells, and can be harmful if they are consumed. Such algae present a risk to dogs which may eat algal mats, or ingest algae when they drink water from a watercourse. Other cyanobacteria may release toxins into the water surrounding them, which can affect those that contact or drink the water.

    How do I know if the water contains toxin-producing cyanobacteria?

    Identification of cyanobacteria requires a microscope, and its presence alone does not confirm cyanotoxin production, as not all species produce cyanotoxins and not all toxic species produce toxins continuously. Cyanotoxins are identified using a range of laboratory tests. The factors that trigger toxin production in cyanobacteria are not completely understood.

    What risk do the cyanobacteria pose to stock and domestic pets?

    Dogs are particularly susceptible to poisoning from both mat-forming and free-floating cyanobacteria as they enjoy being in the water and can consume these algae intentionally or by accident. Livestock are also at risk from poisoning from cytotoxins and should be provided with alternative drinking water. Symptoms of poisoning in animals exposed to the type of cyanotoxins present in Phormidium mats include lethargy, muscle tremors, fast breathing, twitching, paralysis, convulsions. In extreme cases death can occur within 30 minutes after signs first appear. If you are concerned, contact a veterinarian immediately.

    Who should I call if I think my animal is sick?

    If you are concerned about your animals, you should contact a veterinarian immediately. You or your vet can report any animal illness resulting from contact with the cyanobacteria to your local council.

    What are the health risks to humans from toxin-producing cyanobacteria?

    Dr Alistair Humphrey, Medical Officer of Health, says people swimming or showering in water with increased levels of algal bloom have been known to develop allergic reactions – asthma, eye irritations, rashes, blistering around the mouth and nose and gastro intestinal disorders including abdominal pain, cramps and diarrhoea.

    Any reaction depends on the type of cyanobacteria, the type of cyanotoxins present, and the concentration of the toxin in the water. The higher the concentration of cyanobacteria and cyanotoxins and the longer contact with the water, the more severe the symptoms are likely to be.

    Who should I call if I think I have experienced a reaction?

    If you think you have experienced a reaction after exposure to water containing cyanobacteria, see your GP and tell him or her that you think you have been exposed to potentially toxic cyanobacteria.

    Is it safe to drink water containing toxin-producing cyanobacteria?

    No. Toxins are not removed by boiling, normal filter systems, or by adding household disinfectant.

    What do I do if my water supply comes from a stream?

    Medical Officer of Health, Dr Daniel Williams has advised that, “Based on the advice I have received from experts on algal blooms and on test results there is no evidence of algal toxins at significant levels in reticulated water supplies in Canterbury or South Canterbury at present. Testing is ongoing. The known health risks are from direct contact with algae in river or lake water. Human or animal contact with affected rivers or lakes should be avoided.”

    Is it safe to swim in water with toxin-producing cyanobacteria?

    No. You should avoid any skin contact with the water and avoid swallowing the water. The higher the concentration of cyanobacteria and cyanotoxins and the longer time in the water, the more severe the symptoms are likely to be.

    Can I eat fish or shellfish from water with toxin-producing cyanobacteria?

    No. Eating mussels and other shellfish from affected areas should be avoided as they can concentrate the cyanotoxins produced by the cyanobacteria. If you choose to eat fish from waters containing toxic cyanobacteria, you should eat them in moderation. Avoid eating the liver and kidney of the fish, as this where accumulation of cyanotoxins may be the greatest. Fish may taste earthy. Avoid contact with the water while fishing and wash all fish in clean water.

    Is it safe to boat or canoe in water with toxin-producing cyanobacteria?

    How safe boating and canoeing are depends on the amount of direct contact with the water. If you swallow the water or your skin is in contact with the water while boating or canoeing, you are at risk from a reaction to any cyanotoxins that may be present. The higher the concentrations of cyanobacteria and cyanotoxins and the longer that people are in contact with the water, the more likely a reaction is to occur. Wash boats or canoes and life-jackets down with clean water after use.

    #13397
    rdeejay
    Participant

    Hmm getting a bit off topic there, although i do know about lake forsyth and the algal bloom there but the local iwi still take eels from there, and in actual fact it’s one of the very few things that is surviving although not as well as it once was due to the lake being absolutely buggered.

    #13400
    Yakkaman
    Participant

    What is with that why have they not cleaned forsythe up DAMN SHAME I remember going with the ole man and his mates eeling and fishing up a storm well they did a few beers and me running round smashing and bagging sneaking the odd beer out of the glass flagon.

    Anyway is there mullet around I might go out for some cod night fishing’s calm cold and out of the house!!!

    #13403
    rdeejay
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    I never knew it was a problem till i read the sign one day at the lake shore at birdlings then i started reading the newsletter put out each month at birdlingsflat.net.nz and realised it’s been going on for quite some time and they still haven’t done a decent channel yet and are still working on it at the bottom of the peninsula as i’ve seen the machinery up there, they’ve had the original mouth open a few times i’ve been there but from what i’ve read it doesn’t really help. The added benefit is that when they do end up with something decent it will bring back alot more fish and even whales as i was reading because of all the extra nutrients and food flowing in and out.

    Back to mullet i might have to go throw the line in across the road today in the avon and see if there’s anything about, although i highly doubt it.

    #13404
    rdeejay
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    Bah no luck in the river

    #13417
    yellowfin
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    the kaiapoi would usually produce mullet all year round. although winter there wont be as many but usually the ones u get will all be of larger size

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