Long distance casting

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  • #6850
    yellowfin
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    Now that I am home again and have a nice fast broadband connection ( ah speed what bliss ) I thought I would answer a few questions that I have had no time to reply to .

    I still regard myself as a learner in the world of casting but these are my thoughts

    Rods .

    Longer is not necessarily better most of the top distance rods top out at 14 ft 6 inches

    Why ? when your swinging the lead around the longer the rod + the amount of line you have out the heavier the setup feels.

    Why uk rods ? They make the worlds best rods and are MADE for pendulum casting

    Rod action . whatever works for you …Some like softer slower rods others prefer stiffer faster action rods.

    Buying the biggest stiffest rod you can find will often hurt your casting .Until you learn to control it

    One of the worlds best casters said ‘If you cant bend it you cant cast it “

    Reels

    Not all fixed spools are created the same .

    The shape of the spool is important but the way the line in laid onto the spool is also very important .

    Some reels will lay the line down in a fairly coarse pattern while others ( daiwa and shimano ) have a super close line lay .From testing by some of the overseas casters its fairly equal between the two brands .

    Freespools

    A light free running spool and some sort of braking setup are all thats needed .

    The abus rule this world as they are relatively cheap have super light spools and are easy to work on .Daiwa 7hts are also tick the the boxes but can need a bit more work.

    Lines.

    For casting over grass a bright line is better for the simple reason of it being easier to see esp when winding in so you dont stand on others line and sorting out the inevitable under/over tangles .

    Leaders Brighter the better you will snap them off and the brighter the easier to find .

    When attempting pendulum or otg casts you must have a heavy weight leader 10lbs of leader to every 0z of sinker

    Why ?

    In a pendulum or otg the lead is not going from directly behind you to directly in frt of you. It is traveling around you from one side to the other .If you loose control of the cast or a knot fails the lead can shot off along the field at high speed .Think of the damage a 5oz bullet could do…

    #15051
    Miliwolf
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    I have recently been wondering what is the best combination to get maximum casting distance when using lighter weights like when spin fishing.

    Would love to know what casts a 7g and 12g lure the furthest distance, and whats best for casting a 28g lure.

    For casting 55g and larger there are the surf Salmon rods which stand out but nothing seems to be widely regarded for the lighter stuff.

    #15057
    yellowfin
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    Something like a CD graphcast 1 or 2 ( 2 might be a bit tenny bit heavy ) will fire out litlle lures.
    9.6 ft long 2 piece and $200 ish for a blank OR a cts salmon/steelhead blank 10 ft long and made to cast 5 to 30g lures

    Both mean you have to either build it yourself or get it built for you

    #15058
    Miliwolf
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    Might have to look into getting one of the CD blanks made up, sounds like they would make a good river mouth Kahawai rod.

    #15059
    yellowfin
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    He not local to you but Keiron at http://www.reelrods.co.nz is a top notch rod builder and could give you a fair bit of very good advice

    #15060
    yellowfin
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    yea i hear hes a good builder !

    #15061
    Miliwolf
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    Have heard of him before.

    #15062
    yellowfin
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    Have seen his work up close .Its good very very very good!!!!!

    #15063
    yellowfin
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    Oh for a laugh google 18g plug casting .

    #15064
    Miliwolf
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    Would also need to compare the price against importing a steelhead rod, The G-loomis STR1025S seems like a fairly good match. Seen them in Australian stores retailing for around $379 AUS, while they are 230USD in the states but postage would be the killer.

    #15065
    Miliwolf
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    Yeahnah

    #15066
    yellowfin
    Participant

    The 18g plug is a plastic sinker the same size as a normal 150g( 5oz ) sinker .In the right hands 140 meter casts are possible .

    It does show just how far a lure could be thrown

    #15070
    Fishy Bishy
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    Mili, Another superb rod builder is Sports Services in Christchurch. I was talking to the owner (Paul Thomas) just yesterday and he told me of a guy wo bought a St Croix 7’6 blank in, cost $US19.95 by Fed Ex, del in about 4 days ex USA (plus the blank price of course) and Paul built it up for him.
    The St Croix rods are brilliant, not saying CD’s aren’t, but we all know they are Chinese made now, not US made as are the St Croix. There was a choice programme on Discovery or Documentary channel recently about the St Croix factory and how they made rods.
    Paul’s phone is 03 3130064, tell him I referred you to him and ask him the same question and compare answers. He is always building and rebuilding rods for Canterbury fishos specialising in Salmon but doing everything and all manner of rods. I have seen his repairs and you honestly cannot tell the difference bewteen original and fixed. He also repairs reels and firearms. A very handy guy to be in touch with.

    #15100
    Miliwolf
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    Has anyone tried the 8ft shimano Backbone rods, they are the ones with the very small handle section.

    I can get plenty of distance with my existing spinning rods but always like a little more :)

    #15110
    St_Paul
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    Do you mean the backbone elite series 2 piece 4-8kg with the skeleton butt? I have one of these that I use for kahawai spinning. witrh 6lb fireline and a 20-30gm ticer you can cast quite a way. Think they have a couple on special at hunting and fishing for around $85

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