- 11/12/2010 at 6:32 am #16522
Ive caught a few skate off Birdlings..but heres a piccy of my biggest land based fight back in the late 80s..
it took 4 joggers going past to help lift it outa the water..a NZ herald journo came down to take this photo
-we measured at 6 foot five inches across..90kg was an estimate for this eagle ray..11/12/2010 at 10:33 am #16526HIPPParticipant
Birdlings,nice Ray, that would have given you a work out!11/12/2010 at 2:03 pm #16529
That’s not a skate and it’s hard to tell from the picture but doesn’t really look like a normal short-tail ray either, although not much else it could be since I think we only get the short and long tailed rays in NZ waters. The short tail rays can grow up to around 250kg but the long tail ones only grow about half the size I think. Pretty sure we only get short-tail ones this far south although anythings possible considering the eagle ray I got at lyttelton at the start of the year.
Site with some information on rays http://www.seafriends.org.nz/images/rays.htm
Weird thing is that in all the articles I’ve read about short-tail rays they say they aren’t found at all in the South Island which is weird considering the large numbers of them all around the island even as far south as Bluff where I’ve hooked a lot. Those albino rays look interesting as well.
261kg short-tail caught off the rocks in south africa
This topic was meant to be about skate not rays so here’s an article so people can tell the difference
http://www.elasmo-research.org/educatio … or_ray.htm11/12/2010 at 6:14 pm #16530
Nor did I say it was a skate!!!duh?lol
seriously theres a lot of articles about fish..due to mis -information over the years..or lack of research..there are plenty in this mag I could shoot holes through!!Thank the fish lord for the internet..so easy to gather it all up now at the touch of a button…The eagle ray was caught in the auckland harbour..looks very much like the south african piccy..now back to skates…12/12/2010 at 5:27 am #16539
That picture of yours isn’t an eagle ray either.. It’s most likely a short-tail ray like the south african pic I posted unless the tail was a lot longer then it coulda been a long tail ray.12/12/2010 at 6:22 am #16540
yup It must be a short tail.. the species are easily confused..all the big rays like the one I caught and targeted for quite a while were called eagle rays all over the north.Even the journalist called it an eagle Ray..and he was the local fishing correspondent!!.but looking at the species on the net they far easily fit that criteria..The demise of other fish species that target crabs etc..in the northern area led to a huge over population of the big rays for several years..and of course they are the main prey of orca up there..and theres less and less orca now…12/12/2010 at 9:51 am #16541
Still going off topic from skate but I was reading on another forum about people seeing orcas within meters off the rocks and right in the shallows around wharfs in some areas chasing rays, would be quite an amazing thing to watch.12/12/2010 at 5:07 pm #16542fishforpotParticipant
I can just imagine mulletman imagining live baiting a stingy to catch an orcy12/12/2010 at 8:46 pm #16543
I have spent days watching orcas up north throw huge rays into the air tearing bits off them..at algies bay and north of goat island (pakiri)Rays gather in their hundreds in the warmer months to breed..The orcas sweep in to the shallows and pick out the tastier ones..Ive even seen large hammerheads hanging around for odd bits that are left..Ive had numerous encounters with orca.. while I was chasing snapper and kingies,,oops digressing again..thats another story..jeez that would be a big dolphin steak for Mulletman out orca flesh..could cut it into a skate shape..shore beats punching false scallop shapes outa skate wings..another story..26/12/2010 at 9:32 pm #16739
Fishing in Akaroa harbour you can get alot of skate. Just uses a average to decent sized bait off the wharf or any wharves there and you should get them. But as zac said a boring fish dont fight at all27/12/2010 at 11:56 pm #16757mulletmanParticipant
live bait smaller rays and skate to catch hammerheads, some american did it in 06, set a world record with a 580.59 kg great hammerhead, using a live stingray.
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