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- 11/12/2013 at 8:48 am #24207
Miliwolf
ParticipantSS, I do not share your views regarding Shimano rods, for the same money I feel Berkely, Abu and sometimes Penn have better mid level rods. Agree with you regarding Daiwas.
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11/12/2013 at 11:20 pm #24213shark slayer
Participantall good mili,didnt mean the cheaper shimanos were better than others in that price range just meant they were good for the price..i have 3 abu veritas’s..nice rods..shit sorry ffp to much tackle talk better give an epic catch report..went out sunday and blanked,went out tuesday and blanked end of report..now you see why i am playing with my rods
..i think i am gonna head up kaikoura way rigslasher..thinking about heading your way next weekend,how far is it to the rangitata from chch?..had any luck there beameer?
12/12/2013 at 3:05 am #24219yellowfin
ParticipantAbout 30min south of ashvegas SS
So thats about an hour n a half? Went out last nite fished till 1200
kept getting massive ele strikes and possibly somthing sharkier but i couldnt hookup.
Why do i buy expensive black magic hooks lol fish wont even hookup
Shame on you black magic … Shaaaame12/12/2013 at 3:17 am #24220Miliwolf
ParticipantWould probably fish Conway Friday night if anyone wants to join me, driving white surf with a Fisha 550 kayak on the roof. Next morning hoping to launch from Oaro and paddle across to Spyglass point… Would even be quicker launching from Calverley but less sheltered, so doubt I would take that route.
rig_slasher, Are you using circle or J style hooks? Reason I ask is because I read a theory, which I am leaning towards that extremely sharp circle hooks can be counter productive. Circle hooks are designed to rotate before jamming into the corner of the fish mouth and penetrating. A very sharp hook on the other hand could snag before rotating into the jaw making only a weak connection which quickly rips away once the fish starts to panic. I also feel Black Magic hooks are probably the sharpest I have used.
12/12/2013 at 3:42 am #24221beameer
ParticipantHave been out a couple of times over the last few days and like you SS no joy was at the tree this morning was surprised how dirty the water was fished till half tide in no joy.
Trawler working off shore funny how fickle this game is12/12/2013 at 3:49 am #24222Miliwolf
Participantshark slayer
12/12/2013 at 4:13 am #24224yellowfin
ParticipantUsing black m. 2s just the std needle point hooks i only use recurve hooks for rig and sharks
12/12/2013 at 8:51 am #24227yellowfin
ParticipantFinally at 730pm whites road ! After watching the kontikis dredge in 50 small eles
After 4hours of sitting i landed a beautiful 12lb male ele.
Caught on a giant prawn and scrapped like a bastard i apologize to black magic lol nice one!12/12/2013 at 9:29 am #24228shark slayer
Participant2/0 thats tiny man use 6/0 and they cheek hook everytime and all your hits hookup..black magic kls are good ,recurved not circles..i really reccomend that rod mili got mine from the fishermams loft chch..yea it was filthy this eve beameer and grass in the water but 2nd cast got a 7lb cow mate got a wee male rig..damn rig slasher thats a monster male!!!
12/12/2013 at 9:46 am #24229yellowfin
ParticipantYea it engulfed a whole prawn over 4″ long almost got the hook stuck in its belly.
They have terrible worms in their guts eh! Big white nast stomach ones…
Id hate to gut myself ugh
Come fishing this w.e ss12/12/2013 at 6:07 pm #24230fishforpot
ParticipantHook ? singular ?
I almost always use a keeper hook ..90deg to the top hook , sometimes 180deg and at the bottom of the bait .
Suprising how many times the keeper catches the fish …
12/12/2013 at 7:54 pm #24231yellowfin
ParticipantMy trace is 8olb i cant fit the trace thru any smaller hooks
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And i only use the tail section the hook isnt even sticking out but they sure do like to pick up a bait and drop it if they feel the hook.
I figure il catch more if the hook is inside the bait that way they can swallow it down before its too late
Just a theory13/12/2013 at 2:14 am #24232Miliwolf
ParticipantI only use keeper hooks when fishing in contests, otherwise I keep my rigs as streamlined and clean as possible. When catch and release fishing one puncture hole is always better then two.
13/12/2013 at 2:24 am #24233fishforpot
ParticipantI’m of the opinion the hooks should be proud of the bait , they way they cant be picked up and dropped without at least one of the hooks finding its mark .
I rig my traces with dropper loops which I cut one end and tie the hook on a single strand with the other hook sliding ….bait it,bind it then thread the keeper .
If I can slide my hand over the bait without getting hooked then the fish can mouth it and spit it without hooking up …they are too stupid to know what hooks are , they just want a free feed ..
Old school fisho’s tie the crabs on with copper wire so I figure a hook wont worry the fish too much ..I use 2-3/0’s so we aint talking huge hooks
13/12/2013 at 8:31 am #24235yellowfin
ParticipantFfp ur last story sounded like fishing porn lol i gotta half!
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