Firstly im not taking a shot at anyone, i’m just pointing out some of the unrealistic expectations here.
I don’t use high proformance gear for fishing, infact i’m old school, i have many of the rods listed through this post, and have made many change’s to them. From sliding reel seats, guide positions, whatever. I also dont pendilum cast when fishing. But from all my rods regardless of there quality, i have had a jarvious walker for nearly 15 years, which is wippy as shit which i still use, running a reel almost as old without a real long cast spool ( okuma fina ) which just slamming it over will go 150-160 meters without any modifactions at all. My point wether you take it on board or not, Is for one you don’t need flash gear to fish with, cheep reels and rods are fine. ( my opinion ) before you start looking at the rod for distance, you should look at your technique.
Obviously the less distance you cast the higher some of your percentages will be which was pointed out above. I dont mean to stand on toes, but i tell it straight, there is much miss informed information out there and many who buy fishing gear get feed some real crap. Just because you buy an expensive rod wont make you cast further, nor does it mean its good. There are many good rods out there that are expensive, but not all rods within that expensive range are designed for distance like it can be portryed.
The reason i believe cheep reel are fine from the surf, is because all reels need to be looked after, some more than others regardless of the price. The average fisherman doesn’t catch 20kg plus kingfish- 80kg plus sharks, for that you need specialist gear ( quailty gear ) with the right internal componants to withstand the pressure an heat. But when chaseing these fish you target them, to get the results. You use bigger gear than what you would for actual surfcasting. The average fisherman catch’s red cod, mullet, snapper, gurnard, kahawai, kings to 15kg if hes lucky, school sharks. The fact is that none of these fish will shatter a cheep reel, all of these fish however are achiveable on cheep reels. Many of the big over weight bait runners are an expensive over kill from the beach, hardly needed. Handy at times for lemon fish ect for there first run, but for the most part an over weight over kill, exspecially when ya catching red cod, gurnard, kahawai and sholies. More to the point when i see guys using 12lb line !! why use 12lb line on a big heavy reel rated to 24lb when your not even going to get close to testing it? A cheep silstar, tica, okuma diawa emcast will be more than efficiant. So with this in mind fishy, this is what my basis of the comment on the reels was. Same for casting. Many top casters around NZ have very cheep reels, ive seen ROVEX reels go to 200m, TICA dolphins go to 200m The list is long. You dont need an expensive reel for distance.
Fishforpot, what rods where you removing the guides from? Just curiosity.
You are correct in the fact that guide spacings are important, to get a 50% increase ( which im not disputing ) you cant be casting that far in the first place ( dont take that the wrong way ) Some of the rods i have, including a 222 rather than moving the bottom guide i stripped the reel seats and put on propper adjustable reel seats on, Meaning i could put the reel all the way to the rubber for casting, then pop it back up after the cast into the stand , using my left hand on the reel, and my right to thump the rod over .
As far as distance loss with bait goes, im being realistic. It’s that simple. Take it how you will, obviously if you cast not so far, the percentage will be a bit lower. Yeenahs distances he has quoted was a very good day, certainly not an average. Any way, i’ll leave it there, This again is not a dig, seasons greetings and a happy new begining to what will be a fantastic year